Function list builder application

Function list builder application

Postby Marc Venken » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:55 am

Many (new)functions are announced in the whats New postings.

Some are located into bigger prg's like database.prg.

I can find them with a textsearch with multiedit, but maybe it is possible to make a program
that search true all prg's in the functions, and classes dir's of FWH.

Then add them to a database with folowing info :

show database with Xbrowse and search option :

Database fields :
origin : class (class or function)
filenaam : database.prg
function : fw_cdxcreate()
pointer : link

Link pointer : If possible a click to go to the file, open it and position on the function?

This would be a great tool not ? :wink:
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby ukoenig » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:48 am

Marc,

Good idea !
I'm thinking about adding a extra-button to the sample-collector.
Searching for something in FWH-prg's and copy / past to the selected
section / function.

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Re: Function list builder application

Postby TimStone » Sat Jun 17, 2017 3:55 pm

To be quite honest, the problem is that the changes made to FW are just NOT documented. There was a time when programmers documented their code ... but now it's not happening which means many capabilities in FWH are not known. Where documentation does exist, it is often out of date and very inaccurate.

We have a WIKI which is a database available to everyone using FWH ... and IF it was current, we would have the solution we seek.

I have asked for this repeatedly but it is not happening. It bothers me because I have a very comprehensive application out there for my clients, and it is fully documented, and kept current. I even update their manuals automatically with updates ... so they always know how to use what I have created. I sure wish this happened with FWH, but to be honest, it's been many years since it has occurred.

IF Antonio wants to provide me with the documentation, I would be happy to assemble it into a free running .exe help file / manual. A product like FWH with it's great accomplishments deserves proper documentation.

Sorry if this offends ... but really it's a weakness we just should overcome.

Finally, in that manual, I'd be happy to include some of the other documentation that we can use, like James' Object Oriented Programming and the contributions on converting to SQL ...and even some of the other contributions made on behalf of FWH.

Anybody interested ?
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby cnavarro » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:12 pm

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Re: Function list builder application

Postby nageswaragunupudi » Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:02 pm

Mr Tim

You did not offend any body at all. You only reminded us about our neglected duty.
IF Antonio wants to provide me with the documentation, I would be happy to assemble it into a free running .exe help file / manual.

What format do you have in mind?
CHM file?

And we all greatly appreciate your offer. That is very nice of you
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby TimStone » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:37 pm

nageswaragunupudi wrote:Mr Tim

You did not offend any body at all. You only reminded us about our neglected duty.
IF Antonio wants to provide me with the documentation, I would be happy to assemble it into a free running .exe help file / manual.

What format do you have in mind?
CHM file?

And we all greatly appreciate your offer. That is very nice of you
. I will be on vacation for two weeks. People can email me docs or files of native docs. I use Help and Manual which outputs to many formats including CHM, HTML, and a native .exe plus even a printable word doc. We could start perhaps with the native materials used to build the original .chm files and edit the content. Tim at gtstone dot com. Send in zip files.


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Re: Function list builder application

Postby Marc Venken » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:42 pm

cnavarro wrote:Another possibility

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24025&start=690#p202878


I see that your program already shows all functions into a opende prg.

Maybe a extra tool for it if you could read the fwh dirs and fetch all the functions insite it, and show it like you already do, only it will be for all prg's ?
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby nageswaragunupudi » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:49 pm

Mr Tim

Thanks for your offer.
We will be busy till this seminar.
We shall work on this after our return.

Surely we will all be missing you in the seminar. Still if you can take the additional strain to come to Sillian after your vacation, we will all be extremely happy to meet you in person.
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby nageswaragunupudi » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:49 pm

Mr Venken

We are going to provide the tool very soon
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby Marc Venken » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:53 pm

The program that Mr. Rao wrote to read to forum, and be able to search is something I use very often.

The same thing could be used to read the prg files, and list them in a database. It would be a very quick way of having lot's of functions available.
Ok, not the real doc, but be reading the source, we can get it working.

Maybe if we put it inside a mariadb online, we could edit, comment the functions online, and so the community can update the older functions.

New functions that will be made could get a extra rule for |sample|

function Msginfo(cTxt)
|sample| : Msginfo(cTxt) |endsample|
code....
return

The program that reads the functions could get this specific rule
|sample| txt |endsample| and put it also in the online database.

Maybe the docs can be maintainded that way, with not to much effort.
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby Marc Venken » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:55 pm

nageswaragunupudi wrote:Mr Venken

We are going to provide the tool very soon


Great :D :D
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Re: Function list builder application

Postby TimStone » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:02 pm

nageswaragunupudi wrote:Mr Tim

Thanks for your offer.
We will be busy till this seminar.
We shall work on this after our return.

Surely we will all be missing you in the seminar. Still if you can take the additional strain to come to Sillian after your vacation, we will all be extremely happy to meet you in person.
. I will return and am booked for events here until the end of August. There was no way to schedule in the conference this year. I really would love to visit Ottos hotel. I love touring beautiful countrysides.


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Re: Function list builder application

Postby cnavarro » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:42 pm

Marc Venken wrote:
cnavarro wrote:Another possibility

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24025&start=690#p202878


I see that your program already shows all functions into a opende prg.

Maybe a extra tool for it if you could read the fwh dirs and fetch all the functions insite it, and show it like you already do, only it will be for all prg's ?


I think Mr Rao developed this tool

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Re: Function list builder application

Postby James Bott » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:21 am

We have a WIKI which is a database available to everyone using FWH ... and IF it was current, we would have the solution we seek.


Personally, I think this is the best system to keep the documentation. Even if there was a deployable help file, it would have to updated and distributed to everyone. If we just use the wiki, updates are available instantly online to everyone, right after they are made.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Function list builder application

Postby Marc Venken » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:40 pm

Bringing the topic back on top as a reminder.

Also a helpfull tool was spoken about.

Only if there is time :wink:
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