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Antonio Linares wrote:

cnavarro wrote:

Antonio Linares wrote:Dear Cristobal,

Are they dedicated servers ?

I guess Romeo does not have a dedicated server

No, CLOUD Servers

Dear Cristobal,

Aren't all servers on the cloud ?

, You're right, sorry
Aruba has a product called Aruba CLOUD, that's why I used that name.
https://www.arubacloud.es/?pk_campign=a ... mqEALw_wcB

https://www.arubacloud.es/vps/tipos-vir ... erver.aspx

You also have the possibility of contracting a server installed, working and with Mod-Harbour and annual maintenance included.
For more information: tania [arroba] xdevforyou [dot] com

Video
https://studio.youtube.com/video/XJ5f5dTOXjo/edit

Dear Cristobal,
thank you.

The link you posted should be like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5f5dTOXjo

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I don't understand, where each of us has a PC and internet, why there is not an emphasis on "self-hosting".

Why make it complicated?
Take the guide from our friend Adhemar.
One download and one click.

http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=39149&p=234959&hilit=install&sid=59c564041a4a87b7a451169735d93515&sid=5d8e63f9f45ff597c1446491d3b4c92f#p234959

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Download and unzip to drive C:

Run C: \ Apache24 \Instalar Servicio e Iniciar.bat

In the internet explorer write: localhost

That's all.
Saludos,

Adhemar C.
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Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

Yesterday I was talking to Bruno Cantero and I remembered a story:

Someone in the forums commented that he was using self hosting and he went for holidays somewhere far away.

Being in holidays, his self server stopped working and he had to return from his holidays just to check what was happening in his server at home

Thats one simple reason for not using a self hosting at home or at your office

Dear Antonio,
I remember a hosting subscription where we were hacked from inside the hosting server.
Not our site, but the hosting server.

Business web hosting services companies can also become insolvent.

One should see the advantages of self-hosting. Especially when starting with mod harbour.
One can work in parallel in loaclhost mode and via internet.

I still remember the time when PCs entered the market.
At that time, "data centres" with terminals via the telephone line were the nonplus ultra for accounting, even for small companies.

Then came the PC, and you could do accounting in your own company on the PC.
The success story is well known.

Self-hosting has only recently become possible - fibre optics also for small companies.
I think the future is your own web server. My data is mine.

Best regards,
Otto

Dear Antonio,
I have thought again about your concerns with the restart.

If you have your notebook with you on holiday, then you can simply install a mirrored web server there and, in an emergency, change the CNAME record at your provider to the new IP.

With mod harbour and e.g. DBF, you only need to copy the APACHE directory and everything works.
But who am I telling. You have developed it so perfectly.

Best regards,
Otto

Another concern that I talked with Bruno yesterday was about security:

When you open the ports 80 and 443 at your router, you are exposing your own network (personal data, company data, etc) to the whole world.

Bruno explained me that the solution for this is to use a second router where your personal network is. I have not tested it myself, but surely
Bruno may explain it better for us. Security is a must: your emails, your data, your privacy. Opening your router is quite risky unless you know exactly what you are doing and you perfectly know how to protect yourself.

A hacker may get into your network and sniff your bank activity, personal files, he may encrypt all your files and ask money for them, etc.

Dear Antonio,
I know.
There are pros and cons to every system, like almost everywhere else.

But I think self-hosting is an optimal solution for starting and running Fivewin and mod harbour programmes in parallel on one server.

Even though you made it easy for us to go on the web with mod harbour, it takes a lot of practice.

And an application that you have developed over 20 or more years cannot be changed in a short time.
It can really only be done module by module.
That's why you have to have both desktop and mod harbour web programmes installed on the same server at this stage.

Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

I have asked Bruno Cantero to explain here how to set that second router that will protect our personal networks from the outside world.

Once we know how to do that for sure, then we may advise FWH users to use their own networks.

I believe the security here is the top most priority.

Antonio Linares wrote:Dear Otto,

I have asked Bruno Cantero to explain here how to set that second router that will protect our personal networks from the outside world.

Once we know how to do that for sure, then we may advise FWH users to use their own networks.

I believe the security here is the top most priority.

Antonio, currently the priority, without a doubt, is security, I totally agree.
As I have mentioned in the Skype talks, having two servers, one that acts as an intermediary and that receives the requests and the other in which the data is located and that only answers to that IP and with a security token, can be a very good option.
In this case, if the data server is in your office or home and the one that receives the requests is in the cloud, it can also be a viable option.
All this accompanied by other security measures to take into account, obviously.

Hello friends,
Yes, security is important.
But it is not the current problem.

It can be addressed later.
What is important now is to learn to work with mod harbour.

Even if the learning curve is not very high, it takes time and, above all, practice.

Best regards,
Otto

Only a note:
What is the equivalent of apachectl configtest on Apache for Windows?
I try to block some IPs.
On windows you have to use: httpd -t
After blocking the IP the server reports a 404

I use following in httpd.conf

<RequireAll>
Require not ip 51.x.x.229 176.x.x.85 x.x.223.85
Require all granted
</RequireAll>