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Antonio,

- windows TO-Go : you can use your windows from pen-drive and carry with you.
- boot speed improvement : less than 7 seconds to boot.
- Download : smartscreen filter : block malicious download
- Password : 4 digit PIN design with touch.
- IE10 : best suport to HTML5 and flash inside.

- 19 US$ update program : pcs purchased today until 1 January will receive for free windows 8

so many improvements that we would have to create a forum to discuss ... this is a best windows , or windows reinvented.

I take that leave for off topic to comment, another day on FB you said that we need a mature system for phones, day 20 we will announce windows phone 8, I want to nudge the competitor

Intel : Android Multicore is just Marketing:

http://www.gsmarena.com/intel_android_m ... um=twitter

and today apple should announce ios 6 and osx lion at wwdc

best regards

Otto,
We were marketing some of our software to Container Yards and Trucking Companies. The point is those companies were not willing to replace/upgrade all of their computers just to get a new user interface. What they had worked and they were used to it.

I am not saying I will not change or add the interface in the future. I am saying that Metro is not a nail looking for a hammer or the be all and end all.

I believe that while ultrabooks / PCs with touch screen are not low-cost, migration will be slow, and big corporations ended up migrating to windows 7, will wait to migrate also.
but steve balmer said that we would have 500 million copies sold at launch, who live, you'll see ...

Hi,

Please read this:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/final-thoughts-on-windows-8-a-design-disaster/20706?tag=nl.e539

Regards,

Carlos Gallego

Carlos,
there is a true sentence inside this article:
I know that I’ll be spending a lot of time using it over the coming years.
Best regrads,
Otto

Completed the Brush-selection :



1. Window
2. Dialog
3. Buttonbar ( using a fixed grad-pos of 0.9 for the second color )
4. Skins



No response until now, if it is useful.

Best Regards
uwe

Hey guys,

I thought that this topic was about FiveDBU?

Hello Michel,
Yes you are right.

This discussion started because I asked Antonio the following:

is there a special reason why you selected MDI design for the new FiveDBU.
I will remember that I read that MDI is no longer part of WINDOWS 8.
So bringing the design to WINDOWS 8 the more mature FIVEDBU becomes the more work it will be.

If we plan to adapt FiveDBU to MetroStyle the conversation if resources are used is much more work confronted to coded dialogs or windows.

I only wanted to adapt DBU to MetroStyle to try how a dBase utility could look following the Metro Style concepts.


Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

I am developing on a Windows 8 (on a Mac) and there are MDI windows...

I guess we are inside an infinite loop...

Dear Antonio,
we are mixing 2 things.
I am takling of Metro Style and you of Desktop mode in Windows 8.
Best regards,
Otto

To all,
I have the feeling that many posting about WINDOWS 8/Metro Style are made without even having fair tested the system.

WINDOWS 8 should be used as the main OS not from a virtual machine.

Then you should try all the programs available through the store. Calendar is a good one and you should use exclusively INTERNET EXPLORER 10.

If you have done this for more than a week I think you ready to evaluate/review the system.

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Please use INTERNET EXPLORER 10 as main explorer to get a real feeling for Metro Style.
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Best regards,
Otto

An here are some important short cuts:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/uk_faculty_conn ... tions.aspx

• Windows key – Brings up the Metro start screen. You can start typing to search for an app, just like the Win7 start menu.
• Windows key + B – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and select the tray notification area.
• Windows key + C – Brings up the Charms menu, where you can search, share, and change settings.
• Windows key + D – Brings up the old Windows desktop.
• Windows key + E – Launch Windows Explorer with Computer view displayed.
• Windows key + F – Brings up the Metro File search screen.
• Windows key + H – Opens the Metro Share panel.
• Windows key + I – Opens the Settings panel, where you can change settings for the current app, change volume, wireless networks, shut down, or adjust the brightness.
• Windows key + J – Switches focus between snapped Metro applications.
• Windows key + K – Opens the Devices panel (for connecting to a projector or some other device)
• Windows key + L – Lock PC and return to Lock screen.
• Windows key + M - Minimize all Windows on the desktop
• Windows key + O – Locks device orientation.
• Windows key + P - Choose between available displays.
• Windows key + Q – Brings up the Metro App Search screen.
• Windows key + R – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and display the Run box.
• Windows key + U – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and launch the Ease of Access Center.
• Windows key + V – Cycles through toasts.
• Windows key + W – Brings up the Metro Settings search screen.
• Windows key + X – Launch Start Menu.
• Windows key + Y – Temporarily peek at the desktop.
• Windows key + Z – Opens the App Bar for the current Metro application.
• Windows key + Page Up / Down – Moves tiles to the left / right.
• Windows key + Tab – Opens the Metro application switcher menu, switches between applications.
• Windows key + , (comma) – Aero Peek at the desktop.
• Windows key + . (period) – Snaps the current Metro application to one side of the screen. (Right side)
• Windows key + Shift + . (period) – Snaps the current Metro application to the other side of the screen. (Left side)
• Windows key + Space – Switch input language and keyboard layout.
• Windows key + Shift + V – Cycles through toasts in reverse order.
• Windows key + Enter – Launches Narrator
• Windows key + Arrow Keys – Switch to the (classic) Windows desktop and enable Aero Snap

Updated FiveDBU with exclusive/shared mode support and PACK support (removal of deleted records)

http://code.google.com/p/fivewin-contributions/downloads/detail?name=fivedbu_20120612.zip&can=2&q=

Otto,
What makes you think I have not given it a fair shot anyway. Is the only way to give it a fair shot in your mind to accept it and to force companies and users to pay for upgrades and use the new system? Can't we have an informed opinion that differs from yours? Every post you make tries to convert us and preaches the Windows 8 gospel. Someday it might be the only way to go, but I can't justify the expense for the benefits right now. My users like what they have and it works for them.

Gale,
please try to understand my concerns.
As I am not an in-house developer but a software producer for me every new OS is a chance to sell not only updates but also upgrades and to get new users. I think this is different from you. In your case a new OS produces costs in my case it offers business possibilities.
Please understand that for me it is important that FIVETECH offers components to compete with the competitors.
But if you feel that I disturb the sense of the forum I stop sharing my experiences.
Best regards,
Otto

Otto,
You can support and recommend all you like, I have no problem with that and look forward to the options that the new features allow me to work with. What I am starting to get from you is that I have to change no matter what.
Your industry may want change and will pay for it but it may not be appropriate for all users and all companies to conform like lemmings.
The companies I deal with are container yards and trucking companies. The trucking companies handle dispatching and need larger screens with multiple views and screens at the same time. They also need to key in a lot of information that does not lend itself to a touch screen keyboard. Not only that, the price to upgrade for what. They need a well designed application that integrates with the tools that they have, including Outlook and Excel. When there is some actual benefit that outweighs the cost then I will be 100% behind it.