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Dear Maurizio, dear Dutch

Today it happened to me for the second time that out of the blue I lost a customer who had been working with my program for over 25 years.
The younger generation takes over the operation and switches to a cloud solution.

Since you make a software similar to ours, I would like to ask how you plan to switch to the cloud or do you already have a solution?

Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

I'm sorry to hear that but it has happened to me many times. The Web base (cloud solution) come for many years and I lost many customers that need the Web base solution (working with any device). I try many way to against that idea but no way win. It's time to move on. One and a half year ago, I build a new programmer team to work on Web base (cloud solution) for new version. It's not time to one man show anymore.

I made the latest Windows base version by myself, every thing on cloud or on premise server support. It still many years onward to support this version but Web base is the future, if you are still in the market.

My idea,

Otto wrote:Dear Maurizio, dear Dutch

Today it happened to me for the second time that out of the blue I lost a customer who had been working with my program for over 25 years.
The younger generation takes over the operation and switches to a cloud solution.

Since you make a software similar to ours, I would like to ask how you plan to switch to the cloud or do you already have a solution?

Best regards,
Otto

Dear Dutch,

Many thanks for your response. It helps me a lot and confirms that I am on the right track. One always doubts.
We have also already converted parts of the program to the web.
Do you already have the web application in real use?
Maybe you can post some tips on how best to solve printing.

Best regards,
Otto

Dear Dutch,
May I please ask you another question.
Which channel manager do you use to talk to the OTA systems.
Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

I've integrated with many channel manager such as Siteminder, eZee, D-Edge (Fastbooking) and some local. It use web service with xml format.

Otto wrote:Dear Dutch,
May I please ask you another question.
Which channel manager do you use to talk to the OTA systems.
Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto,

I don't convert the xHarbour&FWH to web application. We are writing new with native web with cloud environment.
The pirnting, we are created PDF as normal web application do.

Regards,
Dutch

Otto wrote:Dear Dutch,

Many thanks for your response. It helps me a lot and confirms that I am on the right track. One always doubts.
We have also already converted parts of the program to the web.
Do you already have the web application in real use?
Maybe you can post some tips on how best to solve printing.

Best regards,
Otto

A question that you Otto has never answered fully yet:

If one day there is no internet connection, or the breakdown can occur for many days, because it has happened to us many times especially in the summer, how does an owner of an establishment such as a hotel to place orders and reservations?

It gets stuck or goes back to doing it on the paper notes as it used to be

connections, even in fiber optic mode, are not yet secure,

atmospheric situations also limit digital TV

in our region when it rains the connections of the banks stop, the post office is really a disaster

how does a business owner use a Cloud program when in these situations he can no longer use it?

I don't feel like convincing a customer to create a procedure in the Cloud when there are these problems

Hello Silvio,

If you have a cloud program, that doesn't mean that you can't have your web server in your company.

At best, you can also have it on the same device on which you run the "Cloud program" in the web browser.
This gives you the same conditions as a standalone or a program that accesses via the company network.


Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto

we are all facing competition from basic web programs and android apps, even more significant in the hospitality industry.
For me, the path Dutch has taken is the right one, you have to work as a team with native web and SQL ,
We were lucky, thanks to FiveWin, to be able to work for many years with a single tool.

Currently the heart of our applications is based on FW and SQL database, and we have developed verticals.

For example in the restaurant sector we suffered the transition from Windows Mobile to Android. Then we developed an app with Android Studio and we managed to recover the market (we have acquired customers who worked with Orderman)
For the web we are using a case which is very, very fast and it works on every web server, that allows you to create those features that customers require when they are not on site.

Maurizio

Dear Dutch, dear Maurizio,

Thanks very much. Your assessments and explanations have helped me a lot and put me on the right track.

I have the advantage for my conversion that I can use mod harbour.

As a first step, I start the existing WINHOTEL from the web browser and I program the new things with mod harbour.

In the screenshot, you can see that when I start the Browser in localhost, that I have access to the entire WINHOTEL.

If I start the WEB browser and access via the domain, I only see those programs that are already available as WEB programs.

I made it easy for us and we make changes, extensions and adjustments in an existing CRM code. The backend we change to mod harbour.

We have already finished many blocks and program parts and will now group them together under the uniform menu structure, as you can see here.

Best regards,
Otto

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<script>
const LOCAL_DOMAINS = [ "localhost", "127.0.0.1" ];
if ( LOCAL_DOMAINS.includes(location.hostname) )
{
//alert("local host");
}
</script>
 

This is the most likely and safest way to do it.
as soon as the internet line is disconnected, then the control of the database connection must immediately switch to the local database.

I use Oracle database and this is no problem in triggering duplicate save records to destination server anywhere.

Regards.
Mulyadi

Hello Silvio,

If you have a cloud program, that doesn't mean that you can't have your web server in your company.

At best, you can also have it on the same device on which you run the "Cloud program" in the web browser.
This gives you the same conditions as a standalone or a program that accesses via the company network.


Best regards,
Otto

Hello friends,

Now I have made the decision which component I will use to make the room planner.
Best regards,
Otto

Dear Otto, this planning is great!!!

Hi Otto,

It's so nice. What's library do you use?
I test Bryntum component for room planner now and your component is so nice also.

Otto wrote:Hello friends,

Now I have made the decision which component I will use to make the room planner.
Best regards,
Otto

Hello Dutch,
After testing some components I use mobiscroll now.

Best regards,
Otto