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Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:59 am
by Antonio Linares
First published video:
https://youtu.be/JBiMAf438x4

Second published video:
https://youtu.be/Pze0bkqS8eU

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:12 am
by jose_murugosa
Antonio, links are broken

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:35 am
by Antonio Linares
Could someone else try to watch the videos ?

thanks

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:40 am
by bpd2000
Link are working fine

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:51 am
by vilian
Antonio,

I don't know what is this. How this can help us ? Can you speak a little more about this?

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 11:56 am
by Antonio Linares
Vilian,

When Windows 8 appeared, WinRT was introduced. Later on WinRT evolutioned to UWP (Universal Windows Platform).

Sooner or later we may have the need to deliver a UWP app and we are testing it, combining it with Harbour and FWH.

Still it is at a very early stage, but on the videos you can see that it is working fine :-)

I am curious to know how many Harbour + FWH users are interested into this UWP development, to deliver apps
for the tablets, phones and PCs.

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 12:07 pm
by norberto
Antonio, I'm interested, I'm using vs (c #), but if you have the option to fwh, would use. It would be a new product FWUWP or simply an adaptation? work with others devices, like mobile, tablets, synchronizing information?

are you try desktop converter? just install last preview, fast ring, and it work.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=51691

or download the iso here:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softwar ... ewadvanced and update to last build 14342


best regards

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:17 pm
by TimStone
I think a lot of this depends on the type of apps we are producing. It would appear that most apps to be run on a universal platform would be cloud based, and handle small bits of information. This is necessary because on smaller platforms ( phone / tablet ) we do not have the screen size to provide for larger amounts of input.

I feel most people here have larger, more comprehensive, applications that require a desktop. The sample screens we often see displayed are complex and involve far more data than we could fit ( and read ) on a tablet.

I think this is a good road to explore, but I also wouldn't expect many people to actually use it in the near future. In the longer term, it will be important IF Microsoft can actually show it's possibilities in the larger business applications.

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:35 pm
by Antonio Linares
Norberto,

I am actually testing the possibilities. It would be a new product.

Many thanks for the centennial upgrade news. I am going to test it :-)

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:49 pm
by Antonio Linares

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 12:19 pm
by Antonio Linares
New video:
https://youtu.be/ahdXi5-MIvQ

Out target is to implement the same GUI in Universal Windows apps and desktop apps.

With FWH 16.04 build 3 you may start testing FWH\samples\FiveUI samples and you will the see the similarities
between both desktop and universal:
Image

http://wiki.fivetechsoft.com/doku.php?id=fiveui_support

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:56 pm
by James Bott
Tim,

I agree that most of our apps are large complex apps that do require a large monitor to be used efficiently. However, I do think there are at least some situations where users want access to certain information via their phones or tablets. Workers in the field may want to lookup the status of orders, others need to keep track of their time (legal billing for instance) and others may need to see status of production, etc. So, in these situations, providing users access to limited data would be a real plus. This would not replace the desktop apps, but rather be a supplement.

Now that we have pocket computers there is no turning back.

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:30 pm
by HunterEC
Antonio:

I think it will be a very welcomed addition. It is to us to unleash the creativity and develop meaningful apps to allow users to access their data on smaller devices.

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:04 pm
by TimStone
James,

I agree and I'm moving toward that. However, my apps are all DBF data and the new devices will need cloud solutions where DBFs are not really used. I am building some tablet sub-apps that are fine on a network with a server. They will do as you suggest.

I think Microsoft itself has internal confusion on this.

Tim

Re: Universal Windows Platform + Harbour + FiveWin

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:03 am
by Antonio Linares
Fourth published video:

https://youtu.be/o7FZAlipV8s