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Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:11 pm
by Marc Venken
I need to make a dessission about my server software.

Windows Server 2022 Standard,16CORE,FI,No Med,No CAL, Multi Language + 1.233,26 €

Windows Server 2022 Essentials,10CORE,FI,No Med, No CAL, Multi Language + 467 €

And a 5 pack of CAL = + 230 euro.

I will also forsee a VPN connection.

I have no idea at all about serversoftware, but will contact a firm afther reading a reaction here

The desktopPC to use is new and has good specs for this purpose.

It seems that there are more options in server soft, but Dell has these 2 as option on there model.

We are with 3 users working on 5 to 6 computers in the building. I tested my program with the server option and that is working fine. Before It was a peer to peer situation.

Is this the correct server soft and is the price ok ?

Thanks

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:17 pm
by Jimmy
hi,

as i know "Essential" are limited to 25 User, 50 Device, 1 x CPU 10 Core , Hyper-V-Host , Hybrid cloud support and remote access

"Standard" have 2 x Hyper-V-Host and unlimited CPU / Core

both does NOT have Storage Replica, Storage Spaces Direct which only "Datacenter" have

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you do NOT need any extra CAL for "Essentials" :!:
you NEED CAL for every User / Device when use "Standard" or "Datacenter"

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:02 pm
by Marc Venken
Jimmy,

So it seems that essential would be enough ?

The specs you talk about....I don't know what they are for.

Hard for me ))))

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:38 am
by Jimmy
hi Marc,

Server "Essential" are are made for small Company up to 25 User

what Hardware do you want to use :?:

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Server "Essential" can use 1 x CPU with max 10 P-Core. NOT E-Core
so buy a XEON (or AMD) Server CPU, NOT a Desktop i-Core CPU

tip :
order for Server 2,5 Gbit Network Card and a "managed" Switch, NOT a cheap HUB

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 6:52 am
by nageswaragunupudi
Good learning for me, though I confess I could not understand much.

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:10 am
by Marc Venken
Jimmy,

We are only 3 users and would like to work on 6 pc's

A FWH invoice / Items dbf's related program will be the program to serve. Each user has his own exel, mail, etc. I have no intension
on putting these programs on the server. Just that 1 FWh program. Maybe some more items are put on the server, but that is second option.
I do want to think of 1 VPN connection from home, so that I can have more time for BBQ and work from there )))

Hardware ? I have absolut no idea what is needed as a server system.

Current hardware are I5-7 desktop and laptops some with W10 and W7 for my older FW version that I finaly will install on server with up to date version.

These all can be used as machines to log in into the server and work like RD..

So maybe you can point me to a good server system, even online ?? If for best performance I need to changes cards or switch, please advice with one. Please point me to a link ?

Sorry if I ask much ... but hardware is not my thing

BTW : We have no special speed problems with the program, so we don't need a lamborghini. a mid-classed server would be fine

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:04 am
by Otto

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:31 am
by Marc Venken
Windows essential seems not to be for Remote Desktop ???

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:45 pm
by Marc Venken
Otto,

Originaly I bought this laptop for the server purpose. Never get to it because my older kids found that this laptop did a great job as gaming PC ))))

But still I could use it if you think that it meets the specs like you advice. (of cource with a clean setup and no games. They stopped playing

https://www.coolblue.be/nl/product/880396/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-dk2038nb-azerty.html#product-specifications

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:53 am
by Jimmy
hi Marc,

Marc Venken wrote:Windows essential seems not to be for Remote Desktop ???

if you want to to use Server 2023 as "RDS-Host" you need "RDS-CALs" for every Server Version / User
all Server Version are now "same" except "License"

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you can build you own Server or buy a complete Server / Bundle
as i say "Essentials" Version can be in Bundle as OEM-Version which is much cheaper than Retail Version

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:12 am
by Marc Venken
So essential with some RDS-Cals can be used for RDS ?

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:43 am
by Marc Venken
From microsoft info

Give user accounts remote desktop permission
In the default installation of Windows Server Essentials, network users do not have permission to establish a remote connection to computers or other resources on the network.

Before network users can establish a remote connection to network resources, you must first set up Anywhere Access. After you set up Anywhere Access, users can access files, applications, and computers in your office network from a device in any location with an Internet connection.

The Set up Anywhere Access Wizard allows you to enable two methods of remote access:

Virtual private network (VPN)

Remote Web Access

When you run the wizard, you can also choose to allow Anywhere Access for all current and newly added user accounts.

To set up Anywhere Access, open the Dashboard Home page, click SETUP, and then click Set up Anywhere Access.

For more information about Anywhere Access, see Manage Anywhere Access.


If I read this. It seems to confirm it can be done?

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:58 pm
by Jimmy
hi Marc,

i´m sure that "Remote-Desktop" work with "Essential"
"Remote Access" can be dome with TeamViewer or VPN.

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:49 pm
by Marc Venken
Thanks Jimmy,

Otto, can you point me to the correct version of serversoftware that you install on the systems of you customers ?
You have gone true all steps and have also the nessesary experience specific for FW software.

There are so many versions out there.

Re: Choise : Windows server standard 2022 versus essential 2022

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:05 pm
by Jimmy
hi Marc,

forgot to say that "newer" Windows Server Version NEED TPM & Secure-boot like Windows 11