Server vs Notebook as Server for FW programms

[sambomb]

One notebook running as a Server sound's a good idea but a Server running as a server is more reliable...

About the notebook running for hours, in 2010 my notebook run for 24 a day almost 300 days, I'm from Brazil and the average temperature of my city is about 30º in summer going to 38º...
All I have to do is add an external cooler, and "disable" the LCD (closing the notebook)
PS.: The notebook isn't from a famous brand.

[Otto]

Samir,
>Server running as a server is more reliable…

Why?
Best regards,
Otto

[Otto]

Samir,
please see why we think a notebook has advantages.
(eingebaut = build in)
Best regards,
Otto

[sambomb]

The server has specific hardware for long and strenous use.
Take a look:
http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/differ ... pc-server/
Read about RAID too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels

In a server with raid 10 the disks in the array can be hot-swapable when an erro occur and the system will never go down. While in your solution an spare notebook with no actual backup of the database will replace the one that have failed.

"Notebooks have built in very stable components – otherwise producers would be confronted with too much guaranty cases."

The normal use of a notebook is 3 to 5 hours a day for a medium/high user. The server is 24/365. Who will need more stable components?

[Antonio Linares]

This is a very good server to me



so finally, all you need besides your device, is a:

[Otto]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25114&p=136638&hilit=Re%3A+Office+365#p136624
Best regards,
Otto

[TimStone]

Antonio,

I have automated backups running daily and certain files are also backed up to the cloud ( encrypted ). My data is local, as are my backups. On a monthly basis ( minimum ), I make two removable disk backups and place them in separate fire safes. Another good place for them is safe deposit boxes in a bank vault. Rotate them regularly.

I'm cautious about online backups. It has been my experience that they overwrite previous data with the most current. I usually like a week of backups because there might be a problem with one or more files so I need to go back a few days.

As for using the Mac to run Windows, I believe Parallels now has setting so you can run Mac and Windows simultaneously on the main Mac screen.

Tim

[TimStone]

Otto,

I have found over the years that notebooks simply are not as fast as desktops. For a small operation that might not be a problem but for a larger location I would be concerned about the speed.

Tim

[Otto]

Hello Tim,
I have the impression that research and development is mainly focused on mobile devices. I am sure that within a short time desktop PC and servers – I mean initial servers like small companies use are becoming dinosaurian.
I remember well when the first portable radios and build In radios in cars appeared. Nobody could imagine the development.
Best regards,
Otto

[Gale FORd]

Servers and PC's are going to be around for a very long time. For small work groups you may have the ideal solution but once you reach a certain number of users a laptop just cannot handle the workload. We have 100 users with about 60 of them using Citrix. We need to keep running so we have 2 rack mounted servers running VMWare and a drive array shared by both servers. There are more than 20 virtual servers running all kinds of functions including Citrix/Terminal Services Farm, Web hosting, Exchange and Blackberry servers, Imaging, Advantage Database Server, Enterprise Antivirus, Print Server, File Server, etc.

[Otto]

Hello,

for me an interesting developement and a proof of our "SERVERBOOK" concept.
Best regards,
Otto

http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/products/moonshot/index.aspx?jumpid=ex_r11400_us/en/MS/IPG/_ps_g_hpmoonshot/Moonshot&k_clickid=AMS|13|67283|1e58cfb3-1eb5-9749-b30c-000043a20939&gclid=CNq49IPf2bYCFUOe4AodhX8AmA

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Inside HP IT, we are testing the company’s Moonshot servers. With these servers running the same chips found in smart phones and tablets, they are using incredibly less power, require considerably less cooling and have a smaller footprint.
 

[Otto]

Hello friends,
now 5 years after product launch I can tell you that the SERVERBOOK – WINHOTEL BASESTATION is a success story.
We have many installations without any problems. As the first machines are over 5 years old now we are thinking about configuration of the future product. Some of them still have WINDOWS SERVER 2008 installed.

The new WINHOTEL BASESTATION is a H Y B R I D S E R V E R meaning a combination of both in-house and cloud-based solution and much FIVEWIN on it.

Best regards,
Otto

[Carles]

Hi,

To me, security and robustness are the key. I love to use remote servers hosted by specialized companies, auto backup, unlimited hard drive storage size, 24 hours inmediate tech support, inmediate hardware replacements, etc, etc...

And more process power! If you ever need to scale up your system, instead of 9€ you will pay 15€ for example, and the change you do practically at the moment.

Otto, your main problem is that your actual solution is based on windows technology and I don't think you can connect to a database of a server, only locally (I think)

Rafa's comment is the first thing I think. How can these machines last so long?

I have always commented that everyone should start looking to create applications with differenttechnologies (win & web) and the data center centralize it in hostings. Databases in Oracle/MySql/Ms Server and accessing them in different ways is the solution. But this I think you can focus on future projects ...

But in the end the most important thing is security and your DATA. If you have daily data backup, if your laptop breaks then you quickly purchase another and you restore your data. Sure it works, but I advise you to create a protocol of how you should "proceeding in case of catastrophe".

[nnicanor]

Otto,

In my concern in the future we have to migrate to cloud hosted service or platform hosted service, we get better performance, backup and security included at low cost you can use your desired operating system, you can use hosted service as web server, rdp server or database server, for security all devices can connect through VPN or Site to site VPN, i just migrated all my criticals applications included Mysql harbour application used by 20 users.

In this model we can offer FWH harbour applications as a service and client don't need to buy any hardware only need an internet connection.

Regards,

[Otto]

Hello Nicanor, hello Carles ,

thank you for your answer.
This topic is not about in-house server vs. cloud server. This was started as I substituted server machines through notebooks. An it is a success.

In-house server vs. cloud server is a completely different discussion.

Best regards,
Otto

PS: "more process power" can you please post what you get exactky for 15€ monthly or a link to the offer and plan