new Codegear C++ version

[MOISES]

Hi,

There is a new 2009 version of Codegear C++. Someone is using it?

[Antonio Linares]

Moises,

Where is the URL to download it ? thanks,

[MOISES]

Antonio:

http://www.codegear.com/products/cppbuilder

[TimStone]

This company produces some very nice looking controls. We've got some threads here about using them, and some apparently are OK with Harbour, and others were not running. Some people who were working with the controls reported some of their progress but I'm not sure if they ever got the whole library activated.

I talked to the company last year and they seemed to be very supportive. If we can get some guidelines on implementing their controls, this would be a nice 3rd party library to add to our collection.

[Antonio Linares]

Moises,

What a "monster" to install this 2009 version. I have used a virtual machine to avoid cyber rubish in all the computer.

Now I am trying to isolate the compiler, libs and includes required.

But how to "distribute" this ? Surely CodeGear licence does not allow redistribution.

[Antonio Linares]

IMO we should consider in short term to migrate to MingW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinGW

[MOISES]

Timm,

Are you refering to Codejock controls or the new Office 2007 Look controls that include C++ 2009?.

[Rick Lipkin]

Antonio

If 5.9 is like the other versions .. YES, you have to install all the 'prerequisits' .. and I think the license ( may ) be limited to the IDE .. not the use of the compiller .. however, you better make sure.

Rick Lipkin

[Antonio Linares]

Rick,

It is version 6.10 already. In case that it properly works, I just could imagine a ZIP file with bin, include and lib folders inside in order to make an easy and simple distribution.

But we need to check CodeGear licence first.

Wouldn't it better to migrate to a modern, used by lots of users, open source and free C compiler like MingW (gcc for Windows) ?

gcc = GNU C compiler.

[Rick Lipkin]

Antonio

You pose an interesting scenario and I think that is one we all have to deal with from time to time . Case in point is our Agency ( 5k employees ) has a standard on the MS Office suite, Word, Excel, however the licenses we have purchased are for the 2000 professional suite and that is 'really' old.

To purchase a ( new ) Office license ( on state contract ) we are looking at 308.00 usd per seat, or .. you can consider Open Office.org ( for free )

A difficult delima, purchase and continue a relationship and standard with Microsoft and work out an EA ( enterprise agreement ) which when you pay your license load amortized over three years and then pay maint from the 4th year out.. or .. establish a new standard based on open source and abandon your relationship and move in a different direction ..

Nothing wrong with either solution and I guess it really comes down to compatability and perhaps some new training and the size of your wallet.

As to the question you pose on C++ compilers, Borland 5.5 is still free ( but aging ) and MingW is open source ( free ) and modern.

I don't have an answer for you .. a very compelling argument !

Rick Lipkin

[MOISES]

Antonio,

I think the user has to decide it, so there should be more than one alternative: a free compiler and a new version of the rocky and stable Borland-Codegear C++.

And what about Microsoft c++ Express, wich is free?.

I think is time to update from old BCC 5.5 and MSVC98!!.

[Antonio Linares]

Moises,

> a new version of the rocky and stable Borland-Codegear C++
> And what about Microsoft c++ Express, wich is free?

Have you tried yourself to build an EXE with them ?

If you want to promote them, please help with them. You talk a lot but I see very little code and work from you.

Its time to cooperate, not just to ask others to do the work for you.

[xProgrammer]

Hi all

As to the question you pose on C++ compilers, Borland 5.5 is still free ( but aging ) and MingW is open source ( free ) and modern.

and presumably gives us the greatest potential FiveWin FiveLinux compatability? Run GTK+ on windows as an option?

Regarding Microsoft suite versus OpenOffice the usd 308 (or whatever) will keep recurring as you go to new versions. Its hard to jump off the bandwagon but the best thing you can do in the longer term.

Regards
xProgrammer

[Antonio Linares]

Doug,

> Run GTK+ on windows as an option?

IMO we shouldn't, as we can directly access the Windows API and its GUI. No need for another layer.

The beauty of FiveWin, FiveLinux, FWPPC, FiveMac, FiveIPhone is that they are the real compatibility layer between all of them, to use the Clipper language and the same GUI Classes in different operating systems