FiveWin Visual IDE

[Detlef Hoefner]

After working with C++ Builder and Delphi some years ago i found that i don't like an IDE which forms my programs.

I spent much time to repair all those cryptic constructs like

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void __fastcall TForm1::FormShow(TObject *Sender)

after having renamed a variable or another component and the ide did not succeed to rename them itself.

Those IDEs slowed down my development cyclus by creating overhead to my source code which only served academic rules.
My wish would be a good resource editor to replace the good old Borland one.

Of course this is a personal question. But i prefer coding my programs by 'typing' and not by 'mousing'.
With pur FiveWin and a good RE i will develop more rapidly as with any IDE.

Just my ( personal ) 2 Cents,
Detlef

[Otto]

Hallo Detlef,

I think I must accept that no one but me wants a IDE.

Regards,
Otto

[Kleyber]

Otto,

Hallo Detlef,

I think I must accept that no one but me wants a IDE.

Regards,
Otto

You're not alone in this desire, but the options we have are not so complete and trustable as I need.

Best regards,

[StefanHaupt]

Otto,

I am sorry, but I must agree Detlef. I am faster, too, without an IDE, I just need a resource editor and a text editor/compiler tool for xBase (like xMate, UeStudio, ...).

Understanding and correcting the generated code takes much time. Years ago (at the beginning of the "harbour century") I had to decide, to use the successor of clipper, Visual Objects, or to use fivewin. I tested both, and the cryptic code from VO was horrible, hardly to understand. So I kept using Fivewin, IMHO the best solution for me and many other users.

What we need is only a good resource editor, which fits the need of the modern operating systems.

[Rick Lipkin]

Otto

Lots of IDE's to chose from .. xHarbour has one ( very respectable ) .. but remember the IDE you chose determines your programming style ( libraries too ) .. Like Datlef mentions .. if your IDE doesn't like some piece of individual code ( try pure ado which is very code intensive ) .. your IDE will ( generally ) not be flexable enough to allow you to work 'outside the box'.

I have faught DreamWeaver .. our Staff has given up on Dreamweaver.. actually Borlands IDE ( c++ and delphi ) has been replaced by MS Visual Studio in our environment.

What is amazing to me is that I can write my programs in half the time the IDE'rs 'dink' with Visual Studio .. forgive me as I am not trying to be-little anyones platform .. I am not expecting for free .. SI has a ( close ) Borland replacement .. but .. not quite..

I hope Santa has been listning !!

Rick Lipkin

[Antonio Linares]

So just a Borland Resources Workshop 32 bits clone...

[Rick Lipkin]

Antonio

Just a 32 bit resource editor .. The componants I use most are:

1: Tool pallate and alignment pallate
2: standard windows controls and line drawings
3: Edit as text
4: generate unique id's per control
5: set order
6: double click on control to edit properties, captions, attributes, tab stop
7: create a .rc without header include statements
8: formated like this .. ( typical brw output )

AUDIT DIALOG 184, 15, 235, 120
STYLE DS_MODALFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_CAPTION
FONT 6, "MS Sans Serif"
{
LTEXT "Audit Date", -1, 6, 14, 53, 12, SS_NOPREFIX | WS_BORDER | WS_GROUP
EDITTEXT 130, 65, 14, 56, 12, WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP
EDITTEXT 120, 65, 29, 66, 12, WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP
EDITTEXT 123, 65, 44, 66, 12, WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP
EDITTEXT 124, 65, 59, 66, 12, WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP
EDITTEXT 150, 7, 91, 221, 12, WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP
LTEXT "Auditor 1", -1, 6, 29, 53, 12, SS_NOPREFIX | WS_BORDER | WS_GROUP
LTEXT "Auditor 2", -1, 6, 44, 53, 12, SS_NOPREFIX | WS_BORDER | WS_GROUP
LTEXT "District", -1, 6, 59, 53, 12, SS_NOPREFIX | WS_BORDER | WS_GROUP
LTEXT "Comments", -1, 7, 77, 53, 12, SS_NOPREFIX | WS_BORDER | WS_GROUP
PUSHBUTTON "&Ok", 121, 148, 56, 37, 25
PUSHBUTTON "&Cancel", 122, 190, 56, 37, 25
}

This would capture most everything I need ..

Rick Lipkin

[Antonio Linares]

I need some RC files as large as possible.

Please email them to me as a ZIP file. Please don't include external files (.bmp, .ico, etc.)

They will be kept privately and they will not be published or distributed

Thanks!

[Antonio Linares]

Please stop sending RC files, thanks!

Now I just need you to do some speed tests:
http://fivetechsoft.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9057

Thanks again!

[Rick Lipkin]

Antonio

Our Agency has the rapidshare.com site blocked .. ( wholesome workplace rules ) ..

If you would not mind sending me your test program .. I will let you know.

Rick Lipkin
lipkinrm@dhec.sc.gov

[Antonio Linares]

Rick,

Already sent to your yahoo email account, thanks!

[Rick Lipkin]

Antonio

Got it .. opens one of my most challenging .rc's up in text mode .. not a problem... however it just has controls only.

Rick Lipkn

[Maurilio Viana]

We brazilians use xDevStudio (from Vailton). I ask Vailton times ago and he have plans to translate it to English and Spanish. xDev is a great (free) tool that have all MED editor have and tools like code completion that is very very good (like Delphi, VB, etc.).
The only thing xDev have not yet is a RC editor...

Regards
Maurilio

[James Bott]

Perhaps it would be helpful if everyone listed the features that they would like most to have in a new resource editor.

Rick Lipkin listed this:

1) just a clean header free ( text ) .rc and formated correctly!

I would most like it to remember the last path when loading bitmaps. Borland forgets each time and I have to make about 10-15 mouse clicks to add each bitmap. This gets very tedious.

2) Remember last path to each resource type added to the project.

Here are a couple more things I would like:

3) Be able to put a dialog on a folder inside the RE so you can get the size and position correct.

4) Be able to set the styles of controls via checkboxes rather than having to add the manifest constants.

Others?

James

[MOISES]

Hi!!,

Uestudio is a great tool . I think we better have a visual report designer rather than a resource generator or an IDE.

We can use pelles or workshop, but, what report designer that works fine and stable do we have?.

Best regards,

Moisés